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me to help make this the definitive UFO Web Family Tree. Thanks Tristan
1980 - June 1982
John Sloman leaves
and later joins the following groups: Gary Moore, Paul Young, Todd Rundgren,
Neil Carter (ex-Wild
Horses) joins in time to appear at Readings Rock Festival on
23rd August 1980 as the Headline act.
a Misty Green and Blue interview with Neil Carter (Iss.2, 1994), John Sloman (went on to join Uriah Heep) had already recorded the keyboard parts
on The Wild, The Willing and The Innocent, although he was never credited
on the album.
UK's Top Of The
Pops TV appearance - 1981
Left to right:
Pete Way - Phil Mogg - Andy Parker - Paul
Chapman - Neil Carter
to right: Phil
Mogg - Paul Chapman -
- Neil Carter -
Vox bass that was given to Billy by the members of UFO on the 1983 Europe
Billy also used this bass on some promotional shows for the UFO Tour.
Phil Mogg and
HitParader Magazine - June 1983
1983 - April 1983
leaves to tour with his own band TALAS
Gray (ex-EDDIE and THE HOT RODS, ex-DAMNED) steps in on bass
for the UK tour.
Side 4 (vinyl)
of the HEADSTONE album - Recorded LIVE at Hammersmith Odeon, London in April
- Announcement that UFO take a well earned break
Chapman goes to Florida, USA to form a new band DOA.
Later to join Pete Way in WAYSTED
CARTER joins GARY MOORE BAND
PARKER goes to LA, USA to join SCARLETT and later
to join Pete Way and Paul Chapman in WASTED
Paul Gray goined Steve Breeze in the band SING SING
MOGG flies to LA in September - Auditions Yngwie Malmsteen and George Lynch (Dokken)
Mike Varney introduces
Phil to a relatively unheard Amercian guitarist Tommy McClendon
1984 - November 1984
In December 1983, Paul Gray's band, SING SING secure a headling gig at The Marquee. Who should be in the audience?
Phil Mogg and so impressed with some of the songs performed, contacted Paul a few days afterwards asking if he
had anymore songs. Paul invites Phil down to his home in Cardiff and early 1984, Phil starts writing with Paul Gray.
Phil finally decided on Amercian guitarist Tommy McClendon (ex-Boy Wonder, ex-Thunderwing)
Robbie France was chosen for drum duties - joins from DIAMOND
The band entered 10CC's Strawberry Studios to start demo'ing with all of the summer spent rehearsing,
filming a promo video at Birmingham Odeon, meeting record companies and recording more demos.
Keyboard rehearsals were conducted with Barbara Schenker, Michael Schenker's sister but didn't quite work out.
November 1984 - The band go out as UFO - In UK's music magazine, KERRANG! have a UFO exclusive.
The band photo appears (as above) with thenews of a December tour but at this time there was still no
keyboard player announcement but "it will surprise a lot of people"
Finally the Official line-up is set on December 1984
December 1984 - April 1985
In December 1984, Paul Raymond returns to the fold having
March 1986 -
Misdeameanor TOUR released on VHS VIDEO
March 6 1986 - European tour begins - Germany supporting heavy metallers Accept, with Dokken as first act.
UFO go on to Switzerland, Austria and Hungary - Budapest headlining in a 10,000 seat arena - MORE DETAILS
Onto Stockholm and teamed up with Twisted Sister for more gigs
Then continuing their exhaustive tour to Holland, Austria and Germany
6th May 1986 - Start of a 10 week US tour in New York
1986 - North American Tour
26/5 Spring Valley. NY
27/5 Spring Valley, Manhattens
28/5 Spring Valley, Manhattens
29/5 Albany, NY, JB Rock Theatre
30/5 Boston, The Channel
31/5 New York, L'Amour's
1/6 Washington DC The Bayou
2/6 Washimgton DC The Bayou
4/6 Norfolk, VA, The Boathouse
5/6 Philadelphia PA, Trocadero
7/6 Sprong Valley, Manhattens
8/6 Mt Freedom, Obsessions
9/6 Baltimore, Hammerjacks
11/6 Fayetteville, Flaming Mug
12/6 Allentown, Airport Music Hall
13/6 New York, L'Amour's
14/6 Providence, Living Room
15/6 Branford, Conn. Sneakers
17/6 Rochester, NY Penny Arcade
18/6 Toronto, Canada, Heaven
19/6 Buffalo, NY The Inferno
20/6 Detroit, Harpos
21/6 Toledo, Ohio, Kips South
22/6 Freedom Fest, Wisconsin
23/6 Minneapolis, Muldoons
24/6 Champaign, Ill. Mabels
25/6 Champaign, Mabels
26/6 Merriville, Indiana, Holiday Star Theatre
27/6 Milwaukee Summerfest
28/6 Spirit Lake, Iowa
29/6 Lincoln, Nebraska
30/6 St Louis, Missouri
2/7 Kansas City
3-15/7 Dates forgotten due to excessive partying!
16/7 Albuquerque, Hungry Bear
17/7 Tuscon, Az. The Roxy
18/7 Pheonix, Az. Rockers
PAUL RAYMOND DEPARTS UFO on the afternoon of the 19th July
see rest of the tour dates below:
1986 - August 1986
(Rythm Guitars, Keys)
above photo, l-r: Tommy McClendon, David Jacobsen, Phil Mogg
Photo - LA on 27th July 1986 at Santa Cruz, Auditorium
quit UFO during the last stages of the US tour (Pheonix, Arazona) - later joins
glam rock band ANGEL
19/7 Pheonix, Az. Rockers - Paul Gray performs Keyboards and Bass for the evening
20/7 Pheonix, Az - Jake Jacobson flies out from California and takes over keyboard duties
21/7 Las Vegas, Nv. Krackers
22/7 Las Vegas
23/7 San Diego, Ca. Bacchanal
24/7 Long Beach, Ca. Fenders Ballroom
25/7 LA, Country Club
26/7 LA, Country Club
27/7 Santa Cruz, Auditorium
29/7 San Jose, Cabaret
30/7 Fresno, Rock Palace
31/7 Reno, Nv. Grande Ballroom
1/ 8 San Francisco, Keystone
2/8 Oakland, Ca. Omni
3/8 Valejo, Ca. Talk of the Town
4/8 Stockton, Ca
5/8 Stockton, Fox Theater
1986 - October 1987
to right: Tommy
- Phil Mogg
Ain't Misbehavin' is a mini-album (EP) recorded in 1986 after the band's USA tour
Rock Scene - January 1987 UFO ON THE HORIZON
The latest band to emerge from the ashes, UFO makes a comeback by committing a MISDEMEANOR
UFO have gone through their share of fallow periods, times when they just laid in wait. After coming together in the late 60s, the original band, Phil Mogg, Pete Way and Andy Parker put out three albums that got the band far more attention in Japan and Germany than they were able to get in their homeland of England. After putting out three records in two years, they found themselves without a record company, either. So, like a lot of English bands, they spent a lot of time touring in Germany. There they met a sixteen year old guitar phenomenon Michael Schenker, then in the fledgling Scorpions, and convinced him he'd be better off with them. This addition, along with all the time on the road got them a contract with Chrysalis, worldwide. From there it seemed like smooth sailing for the band. When they put out their debut for the company, it became an instant metal classic. But all was not as calm as it appeared. The band went through no less than half a dozen different incarnations in the next ten years. By the late 70s, Schenker had been in and out of the band three times. As the band entered the 80s they lost steam, and by 1983, they knew it was hopeless. They disbanded after a dismal tour, a tour that was so upsetting they didn't even release the live album they promised when they announced the farewell tour. Now, Phil Mogg is back, and with him, so is a new band that call themselves UFO. Is this a real Unidentified Flying Object...or just a cheap imitation from a B-movie prop room? -(Ed.)
INTERVIEW BY GEORGES SULMERS Rock Scene: How did you get involved in this music business?
Phil Mogg: It was really by accident. As a kid, I tried playing the drums, and I was useless at that. Then, I switched to bass and tried to be Jack Bruce, but I wasn't very good at that either; so I just went out working at different jobs. In 1971, I moved into a house with three other guys who were in a band. Those three guys were Pete Way, Mick Bolton, and Andy Parker came later.
RS: How did you start singing with them?
Mogg: They were going into the studio to record a pop single for Beacon records, which was a small indie label, and they asked me if I'd like to do some singing for them. I told them I could sing, and when I went into the studio with them I totally froze! That was my debut performance. After that, we kind of got things together. We had a guy managing us who was in a group called the Pirates and we did little gigs and stuff. Later, we did an album in the evening because we all had day jobs. That album was UFO 1, which was done on a four track machine and cost us about 500 pounds. For some strange reason, they released that and the song 'C'mon Everybody' did really well in Japan, and we had another song do well in Germany. The album sounds awful. I couldn't understand it. We were sort of wisked off from playing the Marquee for six nights in a row to doing big tours in Japan and Germany.
RS: How did Michael Schenker join the band?
Mogg: When we played in Germany, we played with a band called the Scorpions. Michael was playing with them and we thought he was phenomenal. We tried enticing him away, which was difficult because his English was 'yes' and 'no.' We managed to somehow. He came over to England and things started to really happen for us. We got a deal with Chrysalis, toured all over the world, put out a bunch of albums, and it all came to a point after we did the Lights Out album. That album was sort of a breaking point for us in America. We did the arena tours then, and so we decided to move to L.A. because we had so much work here. We lived here for two years, and during that period Michael went A.W.O.L. I think there was a lot of different reasons why he made the move. The move to America definitely was a reason...I suppose I became a focal point for his aggression; he wasn't happy with our management, so it's understandable now, looking back on it.
RS: How did Paul Raymond get into the picture?
Mogg: Well Michael left, then came back to do the Strangers In The Night tour and album and went completely after that. We were left with that album, which was our biggest chart success in England, and without a guitarist. I think his departure was a little bit rash because we had so much work coming in. We had played with Paul before, so we got him in because he knew most of the material. We practiced for six days and played the Chicago Amphitheater for two nights. We did it, but we'd never do a thing like that now because it takes time to find some sort of replacement who will be either different or at least to come up to par with Schenker's talents in terms of writing and playing. You can't rush those things and I think we did. We managed to get on under those situations - Paul Raymond went, Neil Carter came in - but I think everything was gradually getting worn down and we weren't seeing much success. As a matter of fact, everything was going downhill. It got to a point where everything was fucked. You couldn't see any light at the end of the tunnel, or any reason why you were still doing it, so we packed it all in in 1983.
RS: Do you consider the line-up on Misdemeanor and the album itself the beginning of a new era in the UFO history?
Mogg: It is, because we weren't even going to call it UFO. Paul Gray (bassist), Atomic Tommy M (guitars), and I got the thing together with no intention of calling it UFO. We got Jim Simpson (drums) next, and then Paul Raymond (keyboards and guitars) joined last.
RS: Are you using the name UFO just because you were in it and because of the fact that the band was quite popular - like the way Tony Iommi is using the Black Sabbath name?
Mogg: Not at all. He's gone through so many changes. I could see you saying that if we had kept going after 1983, because we probably would've done the whole musical chairs thing also, but there's a big gap between now and 1983. I spent a lot of time carefully getting this line-up together. I wouldn't consider it the same sort of thing, because this is a more stable situation.
RS: So what did you do from the end of the Making Contact tour to the beginning of this line-up's formation?
Mogg: I packed up all my luggage and went back to L.A. to live. I really didn't have a clue about what I wanted to do. Actually I was just ligging around. I didn't have that much interest in music at that point.
RS: Is that where you met Atomic Tommy M?
Mogg: Sort of. In L.A., I bumped into Mike Varney, who does the Guitar spotlight for Guitar Player magazine, and went over to his place. We started talking about guitar players, so I asked him if he heard of any good guitarists. He's got loads of tapes from guitarists and bassists from all over the world, so he played me some tapes, one of which was Tommy's. I thought it was really good, so he organized a jam session for us. When we played together, we got on fine, and by that time I was getting homesick for the stage. I wanted to seriously try and get a band together, but I didn't really want to have an all-American band. I went back to England and met up with Paul Gray. Paul had some stuff written and we started working with that, and Tommy had some stuff written, so the only thing left to do was to try and get us together. We brought Tommy over to England and Jim came into the picture, then at the last minute Paul Raymond joined the band. After we got the band together, we did a tour to try and get a deal because we didn't have one at the time. During that tour we got a deal with Chrysalis...again!
RS: Is there a lot of comfort being on the same label for such a long time?
Mogg: The problem with Chrysalis is that I don't think they ever knew how to promote us in the past. The situation this time around is totally different. There was a whole company change and now the attitude is different. Plus, we've got new management, so everything is more responsible and how it should be, rather than pissing out the window.
RS: Let's talk about the new album, Misdemeanor. Where did you get the title of the album from?
Mogg: We got the cover first. When we were looking for a title for the cover, none of the song titles really fit, so we bantered about titles. Then one of the guys at Chrysalis' art department came up with the title and we said fine.
RS: Are you completely happy with the way the album came out?
Mogg: As happy as one could be for a first album. At present time, I'm very happy with it.
RS: Do you think the future albums that you do will be along these same lines?
Mogg: It's difficult to say until we actually finish this tour, because as we are playing more live, everything is changing. The songs are becoming more aggressive to a certain extent. By the time we finish this tour, we'll be playing in a more hard rock sort of vein. That's the direction we're going in live, so maybe some of that aggression will find its way to our next album.
RS: Steve Harris cites UFO as a main influence and Michael Schenker was in this band and in the Scorpions. Do you think a lot of people who come see you that haven't heard the band's music but have heard of the name are expecting you to be like Iron Maiden or the Scorpions?
Mogg: Very good question...Now all we need is a very good answer...I don't know. So far, the songs we're doing are primarily new ones and they've been going over well. I suppose there are quite a few people who come to our shows expecting it, but doing all the old stuff wouldn't really do us any good. We don't want to rest on this band's past labels. This is a new band with new songs and we intend to keep it that way. We do some of the really popular old stuff and it goes down real well, but the newer stuff has been going down well too. I can't complain. There's a lot of people that have seen us over the years, but there's also quite a few people who haven't seen us before, like our younger audience. The old stuff is so influenced by Schenker that it really wouldn't make any sense for us to do it because it's not us anymore.
RS: Do you think that this is the band that will lead you to another ten years of making music?
Mogg: That's a long time. The idea is to re-establish ourselves with this album and tour. We don't really expect anything drastic to happen, but if something good happens - great! We just want to re-establish ourselves and we are starting out on a kind of grass-roots level.
RS: Do you think a hit single is going to be the key to this edition of UFO resurfacing?
Mogg: That's all it needs. That's a fact of life. If we get one - fine. If we don't - that's fine also.
RS: It's odd that you would say that. My viewpoint of the band is that it didn't seem like your popularity stemmed from hit singles.
Mogg: In a way it did and in a way it didn't. When you get on the radio in England, it brings a lot of credibility to what you're doing. The public goes, 'Yeah they are good,' so it convinces a lot of people that what you're doing is good and worth the money. I think if we had a reasonable hit in America, we would have brought all the skeptics out of the woodwork.
RS: Do you write for the radio?
Mogg: NO! That's an impossibility. I've always written that same way, whether it's with Tommy and Paul or with Schenker and Pete Way. I could do that, I suppose.
RS: I don't want to put ideas in your head. Do you find American audiences different than European ones?
Mogg: Very much so. The Americans are into rock 'n' roll as pretty much a lifestyle. In Europe, it's kind of like something you have to search for on the radio and press.
RS: Why do you think there aren't that many bands in the 80s that have the staying power as bands from the 70s?
Mogg: A lot of that has to do with the way things have changed in the 80s. The way it is now is you either sell the records or you get dropped, or if you can come up with consistently good material - fine. In the 70s, if you had a major label deal, you were good and you'd be around for a couple of years. Now it seems like it's gotten a little more cutthroat. That's alright, I suppose, because if you can't deliver, you probably shouldn't have been signed in the first place. It's tough, but that's the way it goes.
RS: Do you think the music industry has made bands rely too much on hype and image?
Mogg: Yeah, very much so. There's not a lot of space anymore for rude boys. It's all nice and tied up and neat around the edges, which is unfortunate. It's nice to have a few 'rag tag and bob tails.'
1987 - December 1987
Myke Gray (ex-Dorian Gray and Jagged Edge) joins
to replace Tommy McClendon on guitars
Tommy later joins
'Kathy Vincent Band' before moving onto 'Soul Motor'
Dec 23rd 1987 - First gig with
the above line-up was at the UK's 'Metal Hammer Christmas Party' at London's Astoria. UFO, SHY and Tigertailz, raising money for Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital.
January 1988 - May 1988
Fabio Del Rio
Pete Way re-joins UFO, having dissolved WAYSTED
Paul Gray leaves and joins
HEAVY LOAD briefly and then re-joined EDDIE and THE HOT RODS and then the
Jim Simpson joins BUDGIE
and Jim Simpson later hook up once more by joining THE DAMMED
and then some years later form their own band, MISCHIEF)
EP vinyl - AIN'T MISBEHAVIN' (by band line-up: Mogg, McClendon, Paul Gray, Simpson) released early in 1988 in the USA
(Album was promoted
by playing a Hollywood showcase in Feb 1988 with Myke Gray on guitars)
Phil, Pete and Myke started to write new songs together:Interview with Myke that appeared in Kerrang! magazine in January 1990
(although the interview was conducted late 1989):
"At the beginning of last year, I was doing some work with Phil Mogg and Pete Way, writing some songs for their album.
While we were waiting for Andy Parker to come over from L.A., we needed a drummer to work on some of our songs, and a
girl called Tracey from the management company, said she knew one."
The drummer was Italian born Fabio Del Rio.FABIO
DEL RIO joins on Drums
Fabio leaves his home country for london in 1984 and after four years, in 1988, hears that UFO were seeking a drummer for the new line-up. Fabio audions and signs the contract to become the official drummer. Fabio: with. For me it was a group like many others. I was then told later by my manager: they thought I was crazy, but being in the same vein that they themselves played in my favour" They found another mad person to play with.
June 1988 - Autumn
Fabio Del Rio
Myke Gray (who always retained the JAGGED EDGE name) leaves UFO - his management, Sanctuary Music secure
a support slot to Ozzy Osbourne's UK club tour (Ozzy now with Zak Wylde and Geezer Butler) through June and July 1988
with Myke getting a new members to the re-formed JAGGED
EDGE. Myke then played and wrote with Bruce Dickinson
(Formed 'Taste' as Jagged Edge split in Dec. 1991 and 'Taste' later changed name 'Obsession' before settling with
the name SKIN in 1992). (SKIN video exerpt)
Rik Sanford (ex-electric Warrior) leaves 'STARFIGHTERS' and joins UFO on Guitars as replacement for Myke
July 1988 - METAL FORCES magazine run an interview with UFO and its clear that Rik Sanford continues to write and
lay down the guitar parts for a planned forthcoming album.
Unsure as to why Tony Glidewell replaces Rik Sanford on Guitars, especially as UFO seemed happy with their choice of
guitarist a few months earlier as reported in the METAL FORCES interview
Tony now plays with Thin Lizzy Tribute band, Dizzy Lizzy
UFO play Londons
'ASTORIA' on December 28th 1988 FABIO
DEL RIO then leaves to join Myke Gray in the re-formed JAGGED
Fabio: "After some months of records and lives with UFOs, is coupled by the manager of the legendary band Iron Maiden (Sanctuary Music), who offers him a place to launch a new group with Myke Gray. Fabio agrees and starts his experience with Jagged Edge. Signed with Polydor and would spend the next three years (1989 to 1991)
Fabio was also the drummer for Bruce Dickinson's solo album "Tattoed Millionaire" (1990-EMI), which attracted considerable critical acclaim and audiences worldwide.
JAGGED EDGE - Melodic Guitar work from Myke and drumming from Fabio - FULL VERSION HERE